I thought I would list what I know for certain about Jacob Knorr and his family.
Tracking down his birth city:
1870 Census Lists Wilhelmina Knorr, Christopher Knorr from Westfalia.
Son Frederick was born in Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany.
Wednesday, March 26, 2014
To Do Next - Follow Stephen and Connect with Michael Dwinnell
This post will disappear when I've done it! Genealogy is an ongoing process and I just need a note here! If you happen upon this blog, keep in mind that it's not complete.
The only reason I'm so far in my Mother's lineage is because of the connection to Royalty. In this day and age, I consider the connection to be a servant/employer relationship. In 1600's England, evidently it's not that way. Still, it's interesting.
The Knorr lineage is harder to follow because there hasn't been extensive work done before me. I'm looking for primary research leads rather than secondary. I want to follow paper! :)
If anyone has any anecdotes, heresay, gossip or secondary information I would be happy to listen. Many of those sources are reliable sources but I just want to document everything. Besides, those secondary sources are most interesting! :)
The only reason I'm so far in my Mother's lineage is because of the connection to Royalty. In this day and age, I consider the connection to be a servant/employer relationship. In 1600's England, evidently it's not that way. Still, it's interesting.
The Knorr lineage is harder to follow because there hasn't been extensive work done before me. I'm looking for primary research leads rather than secondary. I want to follow paper! :)
If anyone has any anecdotes, heresay, gossip or secondary information I would be happy to listen. Many of those sources are reliable sources but I just want to document everything. Besides, those secondary sources are most interesting! :)
Dr. Michael Dwinnell - 1670 to 1770
Dr. Michael's parents were Michael and Mary Dwinnell in Topsfield, Essex County, MA. It was passed through generations that he had been married seven times though only five are proven. It is unknown how he came to be a physician but the first designation was found in 1724.
On March 1, 1691/2, he was on duty at the Ipswitch county jail to overlook Sarah Good accused of witchcraft.
Sources:
http://www.anamericanfamilyhistory.com/Dwinnell%20Family/DwinnellMichael1680.html
On March 1, 1691/2, he was on duty at the Ipswitch county jail to overlook Sarah Good accused of witchcraft.
Sources:
http://www.anamericanfamilyhistory.com/Dwinnell%20Family/DwinnellMichael1680.html
The Historical Collections of the Topsfield Historical Society, By Topsfield Historical Society, Topsfield, Mass, Volumes 16-18, The Physicians of Topsfield, pp. 5-8.
Tuesday, March 18, 2014
Lost Genealogy Research
Thank goodness I've listed bits of research here because my computer failed and with it went some of the research I had done. Bummer!
I'm going to list a few links on how to organize this sometimes mess of research. There is someone out there more knowledgeable than I am!
Cyndi's List of Genealogy Sites on the Internet - Organizing
Family Search - Organizing your Genealogy
Pinterest - Family Tree Magazine - Organize Your Genealogy
Four Tried and True Systems from The Family Curator
I'm going to list a few links on how to organize this sometimes mess of research. There is someone out there more knowledgeable than I am!
Cyndi's List of Genealogy Sites on the Internet - Organizing
Family Search - Organizing your Genealogy
Pinterest - Family Tree Magazine - Organize Your Genealogy
Four Tried and True Systems from The Family Curator
Sunday, February 17, 2013
Finding Jacob Knorr - Part 3
I'm so excited! I found the record of the whole family coming over from Germany. I also found a few more Knorr's that I didn't know about. They arrived on the 27th of November into New Orleans in 1848 on the Agnes. They left the port of Bremen. Can you imagine the difference in climate in New Orleans vs. Illinois in November? I wonder how long it took them to get to Illinois? Jacob was there by the 1850 census, I know that.
I went to the German Facebook page and Matthias helped me translate it:
Another person found more information:
According to passengerlists.de, the Agnes left Breman on Sept 20, 1848 under Captain H. Kruse for New Orleans with 194 passengers. Sadly, the passenger list itself does not seem available on this site.
There are two separate families - Sebastian and Jacob. I want to find out what happened to Sebastian Knorr who is listed as a child of Jacob also. The older Sebastian is five years older than my Jacob and I'm thinking he's a brother.
It appears my Jacob's middle name was Andrew? All that's listed is Andr.
I read history of Germany around that time and I'll post details once I find the source again. Germany was going through a lot of changes during the mid 1800's and it possibly led to their immigration. I hope they found America was everything they hoped it would be.
If anyone could read the rest of the record, I would appreciate it. I think the city is listed but I'm not sure.
I went to the German Facebook page and Matthias helped me translate it:
looks like Großgrabe (you can also
write Grossgrabe). There are two Grossgrabe in Germany: Weinbergen-Großgrabe,
county Unstrut-Hainich, state Thuringia (Thüringen) and Großgrabe, Kamenz
county, state Saxony.
Another person found more information:
According to passengerlists.de, the Agnes left Breman on Sept 20, 1848 under Captain H. Kruse for New Orleans with 194 passengers. Sadly, the passenger list itself does not seem available on this site.
There are two separate families - Sebastian and Jacob. I want to find out what happened to Sebastian Knorr who is listed as a child of Jacob also. The older Sebastian is five years older than my Jacob and I'm thinking he's a brother.
It appears my Jacob's middle name was Andrew? All that's listed is Andr.
I read history of Germany around that time and I'll post details once I find the source again. Germany was going through a lot of changes during the mid 1800's and it possibly led to their immigration. I hope they found America was everything they hoped it would be.
If anyone could read the rest of the record, I would appreciate it. I think the city is listed but I'm not sure.
Friday, February 15, 2013
Just What I Need - Another Controversy!
We descend from Benjamin Harrington - the illustrious Harrington who the controversy appears to be about. My Benjamin Harrington was from Bath, England and the other from the East Coast. Whatever. Perhaps family and bloodline are two separate things, although it shouldn't be. Until something is proven, I'll leave it as is because it's all I know.
Now I find another controversy in the family. John Harris and Bridget Angiers. How many more will I find? Will I ever find out the truth? It's why we do research in the first place. Some may want to prove an important heritage but whatever mine is, I just want the facts and that's a little difficult as a new genealogy researcher. There are no paper trails to follow in some cases.
I really don't care who descends from whom as in trying to prove royal heritage. I just want to identify my ancestors and where I originate whatever I might find.
My children can follow their ancestry back to Abraham Lincoln through their Father's side. No controversy there, it was as easy as pie.
Wonder what I'll find on the German side? ;) It's an interesting process!
Now I find another controversy in the family. John Harris and Bridget Angiers. How many more will I find? Will I ever find out the truth? It's why we do research in the first place. Some may want to prove an important heritage but whatever mine is, I just want the facts and that's a little difficult as a new genealogy researcher. There are no paper trails to follow in some cases.
I really don't care who descends from whom as in trying to prove royal heritage. I just want to identify my ancestors and where I originate whatever I might find.
My children can follow their ancestry back to Abraham Lincoln through their Father's side. No controversy there, it was as easy as pie.
Wonder what I'll find on the German side? ;) It's an interesting process!
Thursday, February 14, 2013
Looking for Jacob Knorr b. 1800 - Brake, Germany
This is what I know about Jacob Knorr:
Born in 1800 in Germany, died in 1872 in Adams Co, Illinois.
The record that cites his arrival in 1834 is in error. That Jacob Knorr died on the way over. He couldn't have arrived in 1834 if he had children born in Germany from 1834-1843.
He settled in Illinois. His children were born in Germany, with the last one in 1843 in Westfalen/Westfalia yet he shows up on the 1850 census in Illinois. Immigration must have been between 1843 and 1850.
Wife was either Wilhelmina Nickeloid (most sources) or Johanna Charlotte d. 1846 (no sources except other family trees.Could Johanna be his first wife? Perhaps die in childbirth?
(I suspect "Nickeloid" might have been an "Americanized" version of the name. I can find no Nickeloid's in Germany other than her record that says she was from Germany).
Children were:
David b. 1834 in Germany
Frederick J. b. 1838 in Westfalen, Westphalia, Germany
Amelia b. 1840 in Preuben - the "b" is a German character and I believe it means "Prussia"
Christopher B. b. 1843 in Westfalen, Westphalia, Germany
On various census reports, I've seen Hanover, Bremen, Prussia and Germany as originations. I suspect they are all true as I believe Hanover is a part of Prussia in approx. 1850. Westfalia is further south, am I correct?
I have a German ships list (military service?) with a Jacob Knorr aboard that lists his hometown as Brake, which I believe was part of Bremen in 1850. (If this is the same Jacob, but the location and time period fits. I'm not sure how many Jacob Knorr's were named in that time period).
I've started learning a little German to help with reading parish's records - just as it pertains to genealogy which is a task in itself.
This is a new blog and I'm not sure how many people will read this but if you know of Jacob or have tips on how I can find him, could you please leave a message?
Born in 1800 in Germany, died in 1872 in Adams Co, Illinois.
The record that cites his arrival in 1834 is in error. That Jacob Knorr died on the way over. He couldn't have arrived in 1834 if he had children born in Germany from 1834-1843.
He settled in Illinois. His children were born in Germany, with the last one in 1843 in Westfalen/Westfalia yet he shows up on the 1850 census in Illinois. Immigration must have been between 1843 and 1850.
Wife was either Wilhelmina Nickeloid (most sources) or Johanna Charlotte d. 1846 (no sources except other family trees.Could Johanna be his first wife? Perhaps die in childbirth?
(I suspect "Nickeloid" might have been an "Americanized" version of the name. I can find no Nickeloid's in Germany other than her record that says she was from Germany).
Children were:
David b. 1834 in Germany
Frederick J. b. 1838 in Westfalen, Westphalia, Germany
Amelia b. 1840 in Preuben - the "b" is a German character and I believe it means "Prussia"
Christopher B. b. 1843 in Westfalen, Westphalia, Germany
On various census reports, I've seen Hanover, Bremen, Prussia and Germany as originations. I suspect they are all true as I believe Hanover is a part of Prussia in approx. 1850. Westfalia is further south, am I correct?
I have a German ships list (military service?) with a Jacob Knorr aboard that lists his hometown as Brake, which I believe was part of Bremen in 1850. (If this is the same Jacob, but the location and time period fits. I'm not sure how many Jacob Knorr's were named in that time period).
I've started learning a little German to help with reading parish's records - just as it pertains to genealogy which is a task in itself.
This is a new blog and I'm not sure how many people will read this but if you know of Jacob or have tips on how I can find him, could you please leave a message?
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