Wednesday, February 13, 2013

Finding Roots for Jacob Knorr from Illinois

I've been searching pages and pages of ships lists, newspaper reports, trees and other lists for information on my Jacob Knorr. Some information lists his origins as Bremen, Germany, and others as Wurttemberg. I found this info suggesting he was enlisted in the German army - if it's him at all. If not, it will give me a city in Germany to search:




Translation from Ancestry: Jacob Knorr, Birthplace: Brake, Deutschland (Germany), Residence : Brake, Deutschland (Germany), Date Mustered: 21 Aug 1826, Ship: Adolshine, Port of Departure: Bremen, Destination: Bergen, Norway; Archive Name: Bremen Staatsarchiv Archive Collection: 4,24-E.5 Anmusterungen von Seeleuten in Bremen, chronologisch, 1815-1832; Microfilm: FS_5363



An enlargement of his name. 


Source Information:
Ancestry.com. Bremen, Germany Ships Crew Lists, 1815-1917 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2008.
Original data:
Staatsarchiv Bremen. 4,24, Seemannsamt Bremen:
-E.4:
 Musterungen der Grönlandfahrer 1815-1872 (FS 5363).
-E.5:
 Anmusterungen von Seeleuten in Bremen, chronologisch 1815-1835 (FS 5363).
-E.6:
 Heuerbuch des Bremer Wasserschouts 1821-1837 Juli 1 (FS 5364).
-E.7:
 Musterungslisten der Schiffe, geführt vom Bremer Wasserschout 1837 Juli – 1873 Mai (FS 5364-5368).
-G.3:
 Kahnschiffer Musterungen, chronologisches Verzeichnis 1862-1914 (FS 5388).
-G.4:
 Musterungsverzeichnis der Schlepp- und Passagierschiffe auf der Weser 1859-1917 (FS 5388).
-G.6:
 Verzeichnis der auf der Weser fahrenden Mannschaften 1895-1905 (FS 5389).


This would make him 26 years old during his time of service. If it's not him, at least it gives me a new lead. This document lists the ship he arrived on, provided it's not the same record that says that Jacob Knorr died on the way over. Hopefully there were two that came in 1834 because the one most trees document lists the passenger as "died". Gotta read those sources!

This Jacob arrived on the ship Cassander. That's new information.
Source: Passenger Arrivals at the Port of Baltimore, 1820-1834; Surnames K-L, p. 348.

Next, I attempted to find a passenger list for the Cassander. A short search returned no results but I found a lot of people looking for the same. Isn't there a link to passenger lists on ships? I tried everyone I knew.
I found his name and that of his son, Frederick in a Quincy, IL newspaper:
Right column, middle of the page you will find their names.
Source: All the History of Adams Co, Illinois, Biographical Directory, Ellington Township, p a724a.
He and his son must have lived on adjoining land? It appears the listings here are by section and I am assuming it is referring to land.

Last but not least, there is another tree on Ancestry that lists Wilhelmina (Mene) Nickeloid as his wife with David, born in Germany 1834, Frederick J. born in Westfalen/Westphalia 1838, Amelia born in Preuben 1840 and Christopher B. born in Westfalen/Westphalia in 1843. 

That would rule out him coming over in 1834. They are shown on the 1850 census with the wife as "Mene", not Johanna Charlotte as I originally found.
1850 Census, Ellington, Adams Co., Illinois
So! I guess it's back to the drawing board. My thoughts were that there weren't two Jacob Knorr's coming over in 1834 anyway. He had to have come over after 1843 but before 1850. That narrows it down a bit.



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